it has not reduced the cost of healthcare or insurance. insurance has gone up as a result of care r-frplt it hasn't been good for the budget deficit or in terms of taxes paid. it raises tractioness by about a trillion dollars. as the american people become more and more familiar of the aspects of obama care and particularly how it will reduce their choices in insurance and the doctor they want to go to i think they will become more and more dissatisfied witness and that will be a good issue for republicans. bill: carl roeuf karl rove is on "fox news sunday." this topic came up as to whether washington is up to speed on american. senator rand paul. >> i think the legislature is about ten years behind the public. i've introduced amendments to quit sending money t and build bridges here in the united states rather than in egypt. 90% of the people agree with me 80% of my senate disagree with me. bill: do you agree with rand paul on that? >> it's a little more complicated than that. he is correct that the senate is not as responsive to the will